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	The Nature of Space and Time  
      
      
       
      
      Two relativists present their distinctive views on the universe, its evolution
      and the impact of quantum theory. 
       
      by Stephen W. Hawking and Roger Penrose  
       
       
	
	  In 1994 Stephen W. Hawking and Roger
	    Penrose gave a series of public lectures on general
	    relativity at the lsaac Newton Institute for Mathematical Sciences at the
	    University of Cambridge. From these lectures, published this year by Princeton
	    University Press as The Nature of Space and Time,
	    SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN has culled excerpts
	    that serve to compare and contrast the perspectives of the two scientists.
	    Although they share a common heritage in physics- Penrose served on Hawking's
	    Ph.D. thesis committee at Cambridge-the lecturers differ in their vision
	    of quantum mechanics and its impact on the evolution of the universe. In
	    particular, Hawking and Penrose disagree on what happens to the information
	    stored in a
	    black
	    hole and on why the beginning of the universe differs from the end.  
	    One of Hawking's major discoveries, made In 1973, was that quantum effects
	    will cause black holes to emit particles. The black hole will evaporate in
	    the process, so that ultimately perhaps nothing of the original mass will
	    be left. But during their formation, black holes swallow a lot of data-the
	    types, properties and configurations of the particles that fall in. Although
	    quantum theory requires that such information must be conserved, what finally
	    happens to it remains a topic of contentious debate.
	    Hawking and Penrose
	    both believe that when a black hole radiates, it loses the information it
	    held. But Hawking insists that the loss is irretrievable, whereas Penrose
	    argues that the loss is balanced by spontaneous measurements of quantum states
	    that introduce information back into the system. 
	    Both scientists agree that a future quantum theory of gravity is needed to
	    describe nature. But they differ in their view of some aspects of this theory.
	    Penrose thinks that even though the fundamental forces of particle physics
	    are symmetric in time-unchanged if time is reversed-quantum gravity will
	    violate time symmetry. The time asymmetry will then explain why in the beginning
	    the universe was so uniform, as evinced by the microwave background radiation
	    left over from the big bang, whereas the end of the universe must be messy. 
	    Penrose attempts to encapsulate this time asymmetry in his Weyl curvature
	    hypothesis. Space-time,as Albert Einstein discovered, is curved by the presence
	    of matter. But space- time can also have some intrinsic bending, a quantity
	    designated by the Weyl curvature. Gravitational waves and black holes, for
	    example, allow space-time to curve even in regions that are empty. In the
	    early universe the Weyl curvature was probably zero, but in a dying universe
	    the large number of black holes, Penrose argues, will give rise to a high
	    Weyl curvature. This property will distinguish the end of the universe from
	    the beginning. Hawking agrees that the big bang and the final "big crunch"
	    will be different, but he does not subscribe to a time asymmetry in the laws
	    of nature. The underlying reason for the difference, he thinks, is the way
	    in which the universes evolution is programmed. He postulates a kind of
	    democracy, stating that no point in the universe can be special; therefore,
	    the universe cannot have a boundary. This no-boundary proposal, Hawking claims,
	    explains the uniformity in the microwave background radiation. The physicists
	    diverge, ultimately, in their interpretation of quantum mechanics. Hawking
	    believes that all a theory has to do is provide predictions that agree with
	    data. Penrose thinks that simply comparing predictions with experiments is
	    not enough to explain reality. He points out that quantum theory requires
	    wave functions to be "superposed," a concept that can lead to absurdities.
	    The scientists thus pick up the threads of the famous debates between
	    Einstein and Niels Bohr
	    on the bizarre implications of quantum theory. -The Editors 
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	     Stephen Hawking on quantum black holes:  
	    The quantum theory of black holes...seems to lead to a new level of
	    unpredictability in physics over and above the usual uncertainty associated
	    with quantum mechanics. This is because black holes appear to have
	    intrinsic entropy and to
	    lose information from our region of the universe. I should say that these
	    claims are controversial: many people working or quantum gravity, including
	    almost all those who entered it from particle physics, would instinctively
	    reject the idea that information about the quantum state of a system could
	    be lost However, they have had very little success in showing how information
	    can get out of a black hole. Eventually I believe they will be forced to
	    accept my suggestion that it is lost, just as they were forced to agree that
	    black holes radiate, which went against all their preconceptions ... The
	    fact that gravity is attractive means that it will tend to draw the matter
	    in the universe together to form objects like stars and galaxies. These can
	    support themselves for a time against further contraction by thermal pressure,
	    in the case of stars, or by rotation and internal motions, in the case of
	    galaxies. However, eventually the heat or the angular momentum will be carried
	    away and the object will begin to shrink. If the mass is less than about
	    one and a half times that of the Sun, the contraction can be stopped by the
	    degeneracy pressure of electrons or neutrons. The object will
	    settle down to be a white dwarf or a neutron star, respectively. However,
	    if the mass is greater than this limit there is nothing that can hold it
	    up and stop it continuing to contract.   | 
	   DEGENERACY PRESSURE
	     
	    No two electrons or neutrons can occupy the same quantum state. Thus,when
	    any collection of these particles is squeezed into a small volume, those
	    in the highest quantum states become very energetic. The system then resists
	    further compression, exerting an outward push called degeneracy pressure.
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	     Once it has shrunk to a certain critical size the gravitational
	    field of its surface will he so strong that the light cones
	    will be bent inward. You can see that even the outgoing light rays are bent
	    toward each other and so are converging rather than diverging. This means
	    that there is a closed trapped surface.... Thus there must be a region of
	    space-time from which it is not possible to escape to infinity. This region
	    is said to he a black hole. Its boundary is called the event horizon and
	    is a null surface formed by the light rays that just fail to
	    get away to infinity....  
	    [A] large amount of information is lost when a body collapses to form a black
	    hole. The collapsing body is described by a very large number of parameters.
	    There are the types of matter and the multipole moments of
	    the mass distribution. Yet the black hole that forms is completely independent
	    of the type of matter and rapidly loses all the multipole moments except
	    the first two: the monopole moment, which is the mass,and the dipole moment,
	    which is the angular momentum. This loss of information didn't really matter
	    in the classical theory. One could say that all the information about the
	    collapsing body was still inside the black hole. It would be very difficult
	    for an observer outside the black hole to determine what the collapsing body
	    was like. However, in the classical theory it was still possible in principle.
	    The observer would never actually lose sight of the collapsing body. Instead
	    it would appear to slow down and get very dim as it approached the event
	    horizon. But the observer could still see what it was made of and how the
	    mass was distributed. However, quantum theory changed all this. First, the
	    collapsing body would send out only a limited number of photons before it
	    crossed the event horizon. They would be quite insufficient to carry all
	    the information about the collapsing body. This means that in quantum theory
	    there's no way an outside observer can measure the state of the collapsed
	    body. One might not think that this mattered too much, because the information
	    would still be inside the black hole even if one couldn't measure it from
	    the outside. But this is where the second effect of quantum theory on black
	    holes comes in .... [Quantum] theory will cause black holes to radiate and
	    lose mass. It seems that they will eventually disappear completely, taking
	    with them the information inside them. I will give arguments that this
	    information really is lost and doesn't come back in some form. As I will
	    show, this loss of information would introduce a new level of uncertainty
	    into physics over and above the usual uncertainty associated with quantum
	    theory. Unfortunately,
	    Heisenberg's uncertainty
	    principle, this extra level will he rather difficult to confirm
	    experimentally in the case of black holes. 
	    
	     
	     Roger Penrose on quantum theory and space-time:  
	    The great physical theories of the 20th century have been quantum theory,
	    special relativity, general relativity and quantum field theory. These theories
	    are not independent of each other: general relativity was built on special
	    relativity, and quantum field theory has special relativity and quantum theory
	    as inputs. It has been said that quantum field theory is the most accurate
	    physical theory ever, being accurate to about one part in about
	    1011. However, I would like to point out that general relativity
	    has, in a certain clear sense, now been tested to be correct to one part
	    in 1014 and this accuracy has apparently been limited merely by
	    the accuracy of clocks on Earth). I am speaking of the Hulse-Taylor binary
	    pulsar PSR 1913 + 16,a pair of neutron stars orbiting each
	    other, one of which is a pulsar. General relativity predicts that this orbit
	    will slowly decay (and the period shorten) because energy is lost through
	    the emission of gravitational waves.  | 
	  
	      
		
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		|  LIGHT CONES To depict space-time, physicists routinely
		  plot time on a vertical axis and space on a horizontal. In this scheme, light
		  rays emanating from any point in space fan out along the surface of a vertical
		  cone. Because no physical signal can cover more distance in a given time
		  than light can,any signals originating at that point are confined within
		  the volume of the light cone.  | 
	       
	     
	    
	     
	      
		|  NULL SURFACE A surface in space along which light
		  travels is known as a null surface. The null surface surrounding a black
		  hole, called an event horizon, has the shape of a spherical shell. Nothing
		  that falls inside the event horizon can come back out. | 
	       
	     
	    
	     
	      
		|  MULTIPOLE MOMENTS The dynamics of an object can
		  be summarized by determining its multipole moments. Each moment is calculated
		  by dividing an object into tiny elements, multiplying the mass of each element
		  by its distance from the center zero, one or more times, then adding these
		  terms for all the elements. A sphere, for example, has a monopole moment,whereas
		  a dumbbell has a dipole moment, which allows it to acquire angular momentum
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		|  PULSARS Some dying suns collapse into neutron stars,
		  massive objects made entirely of densely packed neutrons. Rapidly rotating
		  neutron stars become pulsars, so called because they emit pulses of
		  electromagnetic radiation at astonishingly regular millisecond - to-second
		  intervals. A pulsar sometimes orbits another neutron star, forming a binary
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	     This has indeed been observed, and the entire description
	    of the motion...agrees with general relativity (which I am taking to
	    include Newtonian theory)
	    to the remarkable accuracy, noted above, over an accumulated period of 20
	    years. The discoverers of this system have now rightly been awarded Nobel
	    Prizes for their work. The quantum theorists have always claimed that because
	    of the accuracy of their theory, it should be general relativity that is
	    changed to fit their mould, but I think now that it is quantum field theory
	    that has some catching up to do. Although these four theories have been
	    remarkably successful, they are not without their problems....General relativity
	    predicts the existence of space-time singularities. In quantum
	    theory there is the "measurement problem"-I shall describe this later. It
	    may be taken that the solution to the various problems of these theories
	    lies in the fact that they are incomplete on their own. For example,it is
	    anticipated by many that quantum field theory might "smear" out the singularities
	    of general relativity in some way.... 
	    I should now like to talk about information loss in black holes, which I
	    claim is relevant to this last issue. I agree with nearly all that Stephen
	    had to say on this. But while Stephen regards the information loss due to
	    black holes as an extra uncertainty in physics,above and beyond the uncertainty
	    from quantum theory, I regard it as a complementary" uncertainty.... It is
	    possible that a little bit of information escapes at the moment of the black
	    hole evaporation... but this tiny information gain will be much smaller than
	    the information loss in the collapse (in what I regard as any reasonable
	    picture of the hole's final disappearance).  
	    If we enclose the system in a vast box, as a thought experiment, we can consider
	    the phase-space evolution of matter inside the box. In the region
	    of phase space corresponding to situations
	    in which a black hole is present, trajectories of physical evolution will
	    converge and volumes following these trajectories will shrink. This is due
	    to the information lost into the singularity in the black hole. This shrinking
	    is in direct contradiction to the theorem in classical mechanics, called
	    Liouville's Theorem, which says that volumes in phase space remain constant....
	    Thus a black hole space-time violates this conservation. However, in my picture,
	    this loss of phase- space volume is balanced by a process of "spontaneous"
	    quantum measurement in which information is gained and phase-space volumes
	    increase. This is why I regard the uncertainty due to information loss in
	    black holes as being "complementary" to the uncertainty in quantum theory:
	    one is the other side of the coin to the other....  
	    [Let] us consider the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment.
	    It describes the plight of a cat in a box, where (let us say) a photon is
	    emitted which encounters a half-silvered mirror, and the transmitted part
	    of the photon's wave function encounters a detector which, if it detects
	    the photon, automatically fires a gun, killing the cat. If it fails to detect
	    the photon, then the cat is alive and well.   | 
	  
	      
		
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		|  SINGULARITIES According to general relativity,
		  under certain extreme conditions some regions of space-time develop infinitely
		  large curvatures, thus becoming singularities where the normal laws of physics
		  break down. Black holes, for example,should contain singularities hidden
		  inside the event horizon.  | 
	       
	     
	    
	     
	      
		| PHASE SPACE A
		  phase-space diagram is a mathematical
		  volume of many dimensions formed when coordinate axes are assigned to each
		  of the distance and momentum values of each particle. The motion of a group
		  of particles can then be represented by a moving element of volume in phase
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		|  SCHRÖDINGER'S CAT Penrose invokes a thought
		  experiment originally invented by Einstein and used
		  by Erwin Schrödinger
		  to study the conceptual knots tied by wave functions. Prior to a measurement,
		  a system is assumed to be in a "
		  superposition" of quantum states
		  or waves, so that the value of, say, the momentum is uncertain. After a
		  measurement, the value of a quantity becomes known, and the system suddenly
		  assumes the one state that corresponds to the result. The significance of
		  the original superposition and the process by which the system "collapses"
		  into one state are highlighted by Schrödinger's cat paradox. | 
	       
	     
	    
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	    (I know Stephen does not approve of mistreating cats, even
	    in a thought experiment! ) The wave function of the system is a superposition
	    of these two possibilities....But why does our perception not allow us to
	    perceive
	    macroscopic superpositions, of states
	    such as these, and not just the macroscopic alternatives "cat is dead" and
	    "cat is alive"...   | 
	  
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	     I am suggesting that something goes wrong with superpositions
	    of the alternative space-time geometries that would occur when general relativity
	    begins to become involved. 
	    Perhaps a superposition of two different geometries is unstable and decays
	    into one of the two alternatives. For example, the geometries might be the
	    space-times of a live cat, or a dead one. I call this decay into one or the
	    other alternative objective reduction, which I like as a name because it
	    has an appropriately nice acronym (OR). How does the
	    Planck length 10-33 centimeter relate
	    to this? Nature's criterion for determining when two geometries are significantly
	    different would depend upon the Planck scale, and this fixes
	    the timescale in which the reduction into different alternatives occurs.
	     
	    
	     
	    Hawking on quantum cosmology: 
	    I will end this lecture on a topic on which Roger and I have very different
	    views-the arrow of time. There is a very clear distinction between the forward
	    and the backward directions of time in our region of the universe. One only
	    has to watch a film being run backward to see the difference. Instead of
	    cups falling off tables and getting broken, they would mend themselves and
	    jump back on the table. If only real life were like that. The local laws
	    that physical fields obey are time symmetric, or more precisely, CPT
	    (charge-parity-time) invariant. Thus, the observed difference between
	    the past and the future must come from the boundary conditions of the universe.
	    Let us take it that the universe is spatially closed and that it expands
	    to a maximum size and collapses again. As Roger has emphasized, the universe
	    will be very different at the two ends of this history. At what we call the
	    beginning of the universe, it seems to have been very smooth and regular.
	    However, when it collapses again, we expect it to be very disordered and
	    irregular. Because there are so many more disordered configurations than
	    ordered ones, this means that the initial conditions would have had to be
	    chosen incredibly precisely. It seems, therefore, that there must be different
	    boundary conditions at the two ends of time. Roger's proposal is that the
	    Weyl tensor should vanish at one end of time but not the other.
	    The Weyl tensor is that part of the curvature of space-time that is not locally
	    determined by the matter through the Einstein equations. It would have been
	    small in the smooth, ordered early stages but large in the collapsing universe.
	    Thus, this proposal would distinguish the two ends of time and so might explain
	    the arrow of time. 
	    I think Roger's proposal is Weyl in more than one sense of the word. First,
	    it is not CPT invariant. Roger sees this as a virtue, but I feel one should
	    hang on to symmetries unless there are compelling reasons to give them up.
	    Second, if the Weyl tensor had been exactly zero in the early universe, it
	    would have been exactly homogeneous and isotropic - and would have remained
	    so for all time. Roger's Weyl hypothesis could not explain the fluctuations
	    in the background nor the perturbations that give rise to galaxies and bodies
	    like ourselves. Despite all this, I think Roger has put his finger on an
	    important difference between the two ends of time. But the fact that the
	    Weyl tensor was small at one end should not be imposed as an ad hoc boundary
	    condition but should be deduced from a more fundamental principle, the
	    no-boundary proposal.... 
	    How can the two ends of time be different? Why should perturbations be small
	    at one end but not the other? The reason is there are two possible complex
	    solutions of the field equations.... Obviously, one solution corresponds
	    to one end of time and the other to the other.... At one end,the universe
	    was very smooth and the Weyl tensor was very small. It could not, however
	    be exactly zero, for that would have been a violation of the uncertainty
	    principle. Instead there would have been small fluctuations that later grew
	    into galaxies and bodies like us. By contrast, the universe would have been
	    very irregular and chaotic at the other end of time with a Weyl tensor that
	    was typically large. This would explain the observed arrow of time and why
	    cups fall off tables and break rather than mend themselves and jump back
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		| PLANCK SCALE The Planck scale is an unattainably
		  small distance-related, by quantum mechanics, to an impossibly small time
		  span and high energy-that emerges when the fundamental constants for
		  gravitational attraction, the velocity of light and quantum mechanics are
		  appropriately combined. The scale represents the distance or energy at which
		  current concepts of space, time and matter break down, and a future theory,
		  quantum gravity,presumably takes over.  | 
	       
	      
		
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		|  CPT (CHARGE-PARITY-TIME) INVARIANCE This powerful
		  principle requires that theories describing particles must remain true even
		  when the charge, parity (or handedness) and time simultaneously reverse.
		  In other words, the behavior of a negatively charged electron with clockwise
		  spin moving forward in time must be identical to that of a positively charged
		  positron with anticlockwise spin moving backward in time.  | 
	       
	     
	    
	     
	      
		| WEYL TENSOR The curvature of space-time has two
		  components. One derives from the presence of matter in space-time; the other,
		  recognized by the German mathematician Hermann Weyl , occurs even in the
		  absence of matter. The mathematical quantity that describes this curvature
		  is called the Weyl tensor. | 
	       
	      
		
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		| NO-BOUNDARY PROPOSAL Hawking suggests that the evolution
		  of the universe Is explained by the no-boundary proposal, put forth in 1983
		  by him and James B. Hartle of the University of California at Santa Barbara.
		  The idea that the universe has no boundary places constraints on how the
		  equations of cosmology ere solved. Hawking believes these conditions will
		  lead to the ends of the universe being different, thereby determining the
		  direction of time's arrow.  | 
	       
	     
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	    Penrose on quantum cosmology:  
	    From what I understand of Stephen's position, I don't think that our disagreement
	    is very great on this point [the Weyl curvature hypothesis].
	    For an initial singularity the Weyl curvature is approximately zero.... Stephen
	    argued that there must be small quantum fluctuations in the initial state
	    and thus pointed out that the hypothesis that the initial Weyl curvature
	    is zero at the initial singularity is classical, and there is certainly some
	    flexibility as to the precise statement of the hypothesis. Small perturbations
	    are acceptable from my point of view, certainly in the quantum regime. We
	    just need something to constrain it very near to zero.... Maybe the no-boundary
	    proposal of [ James B.] Hartle and Hawking is a good candidate for the structure
	    of the initial state. However, it seems to me that we need something very
	    different to cope with the final state. In particular, a theory that explains
	    the structure of singularities would have to violate [CPT and other symmetries]
	    in order that something of the nature of the Weyl curvature hypothesis can
	    arise. This failure of time-symmetry might be quite subtle; it would have
	    to be implicit in the rules of that theory which goes beyond quantum
	    mechanics. 
	    
	     
	     Hawking on physics and reality: 
	    These lectures have shown very clearly the difference between Roger and me.
	    He's a Platonist and I'm
	    a positivist. He's worried that Schrödinger's cat is in a quantum state,
	    where it is half alive and half dead. He feels that can't correspond to reality.
	    But that doesn't bother me. I don't demand that a theory correspond to reality
	    because I don't know what it is. Reality is not a quality you can test with
	    litmus paper. All I'm concerned with is that the theory should predict the
	    results of measurements. Quantum theory does this very successfully.... Roger
	    feels that...the collapse of the wave function introduces CPT violation into
	    physics. He sees such violations at work in at least two situations: cosmology
	    and black holes. I agree that we may introduce time asymmetry in the way
	    we ask questions about observations. But I totally reject the idea that there
	    is some physical process that corresponds to the reduction of the wave function
	    or that this has anything to do with quantum gravity or consciousness. That
	    sounds like magic to me, not science. 
	    
	     
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		| WEYL CURVATURE HYPOTHESIS The universe Just after
		  the big bang has a small Weyl curvature, whereas near the end of time it
		  has a large Weyl curvature. Penrose suggests that this curvature, therefore,
		  accounts for the direction in which the arrow of time points. | 
	       
	     
	    
	     
	      
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	   Penrose on physics and reality:  
	    Quantum mechanics has only been around for 75 years. This is not very long
	    if one compares it, for example, with Newton's
	    theory of gravity. Therefore it wouldn't surprise me if quantum mechanics
	    will have to be modified for very macroscopic objects. At the beginning of
	    this debate, Stephen said that he thinks that he is a positivist, whereas
	    I am a Platonist. I am happy with him being a positivist, but I think that
	    the crucial point here is, rather, that I am a realist. Also, if one compares
	    this debate with the famous debate of Bohr and Einstein, some
	    70 years ago, I should think that Stephen plays the role of Bohr whereas
	    I play Einstein's role! For Einstein argued that there should exist something
	    like a real world, not necessarily represented by a wave function, whereas
	    Bohr stressed that the wave function doesn't describe a "real" microworld
	    but only "knowledge" useful for making predictions. Bohr was perceived to
	    have won the argument. In fact, according to the recent biography of Einstein
	    by [Abraham] Pais, Einstein might as well have gone fishing from 1925 onward.
	    Indeed, it is true that he didn't make many big advances, even though his
	    penetrating criticisms were very useful. I believe that the reason why Einstein
	    didn't continue to make big advances in quantum theory was that a crucial
	    ingredient was missing from quantum theory. This missing ingredient was Stephen's
	    discovery, 50 years later, of black hole radiation. It is this information
	    loss, connected with black hole radiation, which provides the new twist.
	     
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